It was my privilege to interview Dr. Oba T'Shaka on June 16th 2005 at the National Black United Front (NBUF) annual convention held in Kansas City Missouri. Dr. T'Shaka is the Vice Chairman of NBUF, full professor at San Francisco State University, and former chairman of the Black Studies Program. I caught up with Dr. T'Shaka over the lunch hour, and we had to conclude after about 35 minutes - a discussion that I believe could have gone on much, much longer. Also in the discussion is Mr. Leon Dixon, founder and chairman of the Dubois Learning Center. Rooted in traditional afro-spiritual culture, and possessing a scholar/practitioner's deep knowledge thereof, Dr. T'Shaka confines this time constrained discussion to pragmatic cultural themes readily accessible to any audience.